XXX,
I have long suspected my emails were being read by others off and on for a few years. This is how I feel about it: I know it’s happening, I have nothing to hide–read away, fuckers. Which is why I am sending you this email.
First of all, I have heard far stranger stories than your’s and I do not automatically discount anything in this case. You should know that I have been down the road before with more than a few people who want to help and then become hostile and borderline (or outright) belligerent as time goes on when I ask questions or am unable to do things they think a victim’s family member can do. I know you didn’t ask for any of this, but I didn’t either. I think you have vastly overestimated what I can do (the cops and prosecutor hate me and my family), and underestimated my intelligence.
I thank you for speaking up and speaking up loudly. I need you to understand fully and completely that you should not be doing anything to jeopardize your daughter or your relationship with her. NOTHING. Don’t do it on my family’s behalf and don’t do it in the name of the kids who were murdered. We have to be smart about all of this. There has been far too much fall-out and anytime someone else goes under the bus in this case, it only assures those who have something to hide that their secrets are safe for all time. I do not believe this case will ever be “solved” in the sense of some authority putting a stamp on it and saying “closed.” Another woman I have been in contact with for a few months has a son who is a new LE officer. He has been warned that his mom better shut up or there could be problems for him. Do I doubt this? No way. I have told her repeatedly we have to find a way to deal with her info under the radar so her son is not jeopardized. There have already been so many terrible repercussions around this case. We have to be smart about all of it. Believe me, I understand the frustration.
I am more than willing to listen to what you have to say. But know this–there is NO WAY any court will issue a search warrant based on what you have revealed to me. I could scream at the top of my lungs at some press conference and it wouldn’t change a thing. Search warrants are issued based on probable cause. I am not trying to be a jerk, but God cannot sign an affidavit. I am not a religious person, but I am a very spiritual person. As I’ve stated, I am open-minded. But surely you must realize that cops in general, and people like Det. XXXX XXXXXX, hate this stuff. And that’s in the normal case, not a case where they have massive amounts of ass-covering to do. These people go nuts when people question them–and all of the agencies involved in this case have a long, long history of dissing people who come forward with information in this case. If the person pushes it, they are subjected to mistreatment of one kind or another. Trust me, I’ve heard it over the past eight years. I know it happens. All of us who speak up are either emotional freaks, cranks, crazies, drug addicts, drunks, obsessed with serial killers, or looking for money or fame. It is a common theme.
I know another person who was committed after speaking up about this case years ago. So I believe this strategy is still used to shut people up. [. . .] Along those lines, as I reread your emails and comments, I found them to take on an escalating level of hostility. I will give you the benefit of the doubt for now, because you may have misunderstood my lack of communication–which was due to the fact that I was on vacation with my daughter, who deserves my full attention–especially on a vacation that was for us–and does not need to be exposed to this shit.
I don’t think any of us are being paranoid–I think we are justifiably concerned about what might happen in light of what we are saying and doing. So I don’t think you are paranoid. I get it.
As for your assumptions about my blog and my intelligence level: I do not for one minute trust ANY of the law enforcement involved in this case. The closest I come to some kind of “reassurance” is Wayne County–but they are hampered because the MSP fucks with them at every turn. A private investigator who is working on this case on her own dime came to me with information and asked who I trust that she could go to. My answer: No one. She has contacts at the FBI–I told her I believe they are dirty in this case. I’m having a hard time convincing her of this, but I won’t give up.
So stop accusing me of barking up the wrong tree, trusting the cops, all of that shit. I don’t know who killed Tim, Kris, Jill and Mark, or the other kids who have not been connected to this case. I started that blog so I could put shit out there that we have found. XXX, the cops DIDN’T come to us with the Busch info. We came to them with it. The documents speak for themselves. Your pastor talked to Gunnels? So what. He flunked his polygraph. And that doesn’t mean he is guilty, but those are the fucking facts.
In short, whatever I put on my blog, I don’t need a critique of it from every person who has a dog in this fight. It is what it is. And what is it? Evidence of the fact that this investigation is so utterly flawed that the crime will never be solved. So let the public see what was in those files. Let them see how their elected officials and the cops they pay big tax dollars to support, operate.
I do not doubt what XXX has seen and knows. That house may have housed incredible evil. However, how do you know details such as that the killer was someone who was not a pedophile, whose purpose was to induce fear in the suburbs (a theory which is entirely plausible)? How did you come across this case and know that what you found in the attic was related to this case?
I am perfectly open to the idea that Busch was not involved. However, you yourself admit his suicide was actually a homicide. Why was he set up as a patsy for these murders? The cops have fought us every inch of the way on the Busch lead. I don’t give a shit if it turns out Busch was not directly involved. I am not a “Busch Theorist.” What I am is someone who thinks that not ONE SINGLE FUCKING LEAD IN THIS CASE WAS ADEQUATELY INVESTIGATED TO THE POINT THAT IT COULD BE DISMISSED. What does that say about the largest manhunt/investigation in the U.S. at the time?!
No one in my family has pulled your court file in Oakland County. I can honestly say that I have never even run a Google search or any other search on you. XXX informs me that your real name is XXX. I have not searched either name. I don’t think my Dad has contacted you, and I can tell you right now, he is not open to the kind of things you are talking about. Keep in mind that this is a man who trusted the cops for 30 years. It took us kids two years to convince him that he had been hoodwinked by the cops.
I looked up Lt. Det. XXX from the O.C. Sheriff Dept. Do I doubt that he is a douchebag and a typical cop? No. The OC Sheriff was out of the loop for decades. Do I think they will do shit on this case? No. Don’t accuse me of trusting them. I don’t. None of those fucks have given my family any information and as a matter of fact, representatives of this agency have lied to my Dad’s face. He knows it; we all know it. We are taking steps to make it all public.
Who owns XXX XXXXXXXXXXXX? I tried to do a title search on the property and of course after I paid them their money, it turns out I need an owner’s name, not an address. Let’s see who owned this property over the years. I take it XXX lives there and that she will not agree to a visit by a cadaver dog. Michigan Search and Rescue offers this service, although it is unclear from the site the level of experience their dogs have with more “ancient” remains, which is a specialized area of search. There are dogs trained around the country to deal with this type of situation, but it is a sub-specialty of search. I am not opposed to looking into this option on a private basis–you know the cops won’t do it–but if the owner won’t consent, that’s a non-starter.
I plan on speaking to XXX on Wed. night [. . .]. I am copying XXX on this email. I will call XXX as you suggested. In the meantime, I will just reiterate that I have been bullied and played by others in the past. I am way past taking shit off of anyone in this case. By this I don’t mean to say that I don’t believe you or I doubt your claims. What I mean is that I will not be held hostage to your claims or what you know. If I could do more with your information, I would. All I can do is keep an open mind and research on the side with the hopes that something comes of it. I will not jeopardize my privacy by calling you on my cell phone and will call from a landline. I have a daughter at home, too–I am sure you can understand. I know you are going through hell and I am very sorry for that. If I could change it, I would.
Cathy
Your poor family.always in my prayers Cathy.
Clearly, Cathy, your newest entry above is intended for a certain individual. What I’m confused about is that when I read the COMMENTS I don’t see anything offensive, critical, pushy or whatever. Are you getting private communications from this person? I’ve been able to read comments from only about 4 or 5 people. Just want you to know what it looks like from out here.
Yes, private communications, not published.
Cathy, there are alot of crazies out there. I dont know why some have attached thier ideas to this case. I like that you have taken control of the posts thst come into this blog. Please be strict on it so it doesnt turn into helens site or that topic site. Both overan by crazies.
Mike, at first I did not enable the comment section and then I switched to allowing approved comments. I will be strict and certain names and name combinations are blocked entirely.
Sounds like know-it-all “Bob” from the news clippings! An older form of Anonymous that existed back in the day using radios and telephone pranks.
I will order the DVD. Meanwhile, I can’t help but wonder if the continued “incompetence” of certain LE officials is actually deliberate: after-the-fact CYA. After all, if Busch really was an informant or a PCI for any level of LE, particularly the MSP or the feds, then the lengths to which they would go to hide that would know no bounds. Such a relationship between Busch and any level of LE would be covered up for all time, even if Busch’s original handler/contact(s) was/were long gone.
I think you suspect that, too.
Further, Cooper’s continued intransigence must be due to some external pressure. (Again, the MSP?)
If, as I think likely, Busch was involved, however tangentially, in a much larger ring, one (or several) covering multiple states, then the feds may have/probably used him too.
None of this should imply that that any level of LE was directly complicit with the kidnappings/torture/rape/murders (I bet Busch and Green did those on their own, unbeknownst to Busch’s handler), rather that when Green told his story in jail in January of ’77, alarm bells at DefCon 1 level must have sounded somewhere in LE. If Busch was a CI, then “Sh*t hitting the fan” could not come have close to describing the feeling at MSP HQ (Birmingham PD, feds too? Berkley too?) at that moment. Busch’s involvement was now known – a suspect in LEIN. LE careers would be over, and there would be a good chance some LE types would be going to jail, depending on exactly what and when they knew about the ring.
It’s likely that some (theoretical) LE handler(s) for Busch originally thought that the trade-off of Busch’s help in busting (lower level) ring participants might have justified allowing Busch to remain on the streets, not realizing that Busch had already made the jump in February of 1976 from molestation to kidnap/murder. And that this/these same (theoretical) handler/contact(s) procured Busch’s release in March of ’77 in a desperate effort to hide/obscure Busch’s role, and more importantly, their own (theoretical) role, however unwitting, in abetting Busch’s later, more heinous crimes. In other words, the “botched” polygraph exam did exactly what it was intended to do – it allowed LE to lift the finger of suspicion away from Busch.
If so, then Busch’s apparent stopping of his heinous ways after your brother’s murder was remarkably timely for this/these (theoretical) handler(s). Busch’s “suicide” (and it really could have been a suicide, but who knows?) in November of ’78 was even better, both for his (theoretical) handlers, and for any unindicted ring members, now free to breathe easier.
So, if any evidence at all, anecdotal or otherwise, exists about Busch’s activities after March of ’77, that evidence may give us an idea about who had the juice to stop/disable Busch in his tracks, apparently, until he was safely and permanently silenced 18 months later.
Of course, the gold mine would be the LE files on the Fox Island ring. Busch was there, taking pictures, but not arrested. That’s a dead giveaway. Someone leaned on Busch to become an informant at that moment. Payouts to informants are in cash, and any such records of a (theoretical) payment to Busch would have been destroyed 37 years ago. But records might still exist about which detectives in which levels of LE were actually making such payouts. Maybe.
Are my comments not showing up because of profile name “OaklandJustice”?
What happened, oaklandjustice, is that I got so many email notifications between Christmas Eve and the ensuing days that you had “liked” my posts some of the emails requesting action on pending comments from you got lost in the shuffle. I am slowly catching up with posting pending comments. You weren’t the only one, and some of the pending comments were much older than your comments.
I try to go through all comments carefully because some are too disturbing/irrational to post.
Thank you for your response. I think what happened was that I hadn’t “confirmed” through e-mail about this site, yet. One I did that everything that I since posted has appeared. Thanks!