All Talk with Kevin Dietz, see at about *the 1 hour, 10 minute mark–

https://all-talk-with-kevin-dietz.simplecast.com/episodes/all-talk-with-kevin-dietz-february-13-2026-full-show-OOOCX85Y

And this article in A&E (2-13-26)–

https://www.aetv.com/articles/oakland-county-child-killer-cold-case