“I appreciate your interest in the solving of the Oakland County Child Murders that occurred in the mid-1970s.”Posted: February 15, 2020
Here is a copy of a letter dated March 29, 2001 from the late Det./Sgt. Ray Anger to the late Helen Dagner:
A few observations. First, at least Anger was smart enough to respond to Dagner’s information. And in writing! When does that ever happen??? Second, John was alleged to have held more than one passport and to have engaged in passport doctoring. Also, good excuse. Busch tried that one, too, only he got his dates wrong and turns out he returned from Europe in plenty of time to abduct or hold Mark Stebbins in February 1976. On March 16, 1977, the day my brother was abducted, an Oakland County divorce court ordered that John’s parents could proceed with the eviction of the adult son (him) and that the home on Tuckahoe, just a stone’s throw from Busch’s parents home on Morningview Terrace, could be put on the market for immediate sale at an offset price with no broker. The house was sold on March 24, 1977.
Maybe the parents were getting the job done while the adult son was in Europe. Funny thing is that the family when interviewed about this seemed to give different dates and explanations about how he got to Europe.
When he was questioned in 1977 there was apparently no mention of Europe or a passport. We now know that a potential participant’s alibi for a time period relating to just one of the abductions is about as good as the fact that he did not drive a blue Gremlin. And we all know now how well the MSP did with polygraphs back in the day.
There has always been speculation that a cop had to be involved in these crimes. But is it just as likely that it was so easy to stay one step ahead of police in this case, that of course the abductions continued with impunity?
I called a cop to ask about John years ago and he said “Cathy, you can make anything fit if you try hard enough.” Like maybe this?:
In the words of a contemporary of the ubiquitous Vince Gunnels back in the day. This doesn’t sound like fun to me:
A friend sent this screenshot yesterday from Governor Whitmer’s twitter account on Holocaust Remembrance Day:
It was prefaced with “Thought you could use a laugh.”
How about silence, Governor Whitmer? Silence from a law enforcement agency that reports directly to you. And silence from you in the face of letters from living victims of pedophiles who operated with impunity in Michigan and constituents who want to know just where this case is or if if is stalled out forever. Or, of course, the “call the state police and have a good day” responses, which amount to silence.
SILENCE ENCOURAGES THE TORMENTOR, NEVER THE TORMENTED. Just ask any of the living victims of pedophiles and pedophile rings in your grand state.
And here’s an interesting email from the late Helen Dagner to someone who was sharing information with her about a possible suspect. Dated August 27, 2007, it would be a few months before the names Chris Busch, Greg Green and Vince Gunnels came to light in a new way.
Almost 13 years later, we sit waiting for that needle-in-a-haystack DNA hit (it would help if they would actually use the most cutting-edge procedures) to someone whose DNA can probably only be accessed through genetic genealogy.
Today DuPage County State’s Attorney Robert Berlin announced that the 44-year-old murder case of high school junior Pamela Maurer had been solved using genetic geneology to identify the murderer, a likely serial killer. He died in 1981. https://patch.com/illinois/lisle/break-expected-1976-lisle-cold-case-murder
Berlin said that in 2001, biological evidence from Maurer’s body was analyzed and the DNA was added to the county’s Combined DNA Index System (CODIS) system, but no matches ever came up. In 2019, experts used DNA phenotyping to determine characteristics such as the suspect’s facial traits, eye color and appearance, and create a composite image of Maurer’s killer. A public genealogy database was used to build a family tree to help identify potential new leads in the case.
The information led police to Bruce Lindahl of Aurora, who died in 1981. Lindahl’s body was exhumed Nov. 6, 2019, in an attempt to get DNA to compare with the evidence collected from Maurer’s body.
Lindahl’s DNA came up as a match for the DNA found on Maurer’s body, authorities said.
As a result of the discovery, police believe they can now link Lindahl to other victims. “We have evidence that there may be other young women who were victimized by Bruce Lindahl between 1974 and his death in 1981,” Berlin said.
Law enforcement followed the methods used in 2018 to identify and arrest the Golden State Killer/East Area Rapist in California.
Thank you to a reader for sending this link.
A few points:
1. 1976 case.
2. Look at the efforts made by this small, suburban police department over the years to solve this young woman’s murder case.
3. Press conference to announce the resolution of the case by the DuPage County’s State’s Attorney even though this piece of shit is long dead. He died in 1981 when he accidentally cut his own femoral artery while fatally stabbing an 18-year-old high school student. There’s some Karma for you.
4. When Oakland County officials and the FBI exhumed David Norberg in Wyoming for DNA testing in 1999 they found his DNA “did not match pubic hair found on 11-year-old Timothy King . . . ” https://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/dna-does-not-link-wyoming-suspect-to-child-killings/article_09bf037b-a13a-57e3-b2a2-da97f541bcf2.html. No mention of the hair found on Kristine. No mention of the hair found on Mark. No mention of the hair found in the “Pontiac debris” (Arch Sloan’s red, 1966 Pontiac Bonneville). So now that these hairs have all magically appeared, how about treating them the way they did in the Golden State Killer case and the murder of this young, vibrant high school junior in 1976?
WHY HAVEN’T YOU DONE THIS? If this hair evidence cannot be evaluated in the most cutting-edge way possible (we’ve talked about this before . . .), tell us why! If you have multiple hairs (Mark, Tim, the hairs in the Pontiac) and they all are from the same source, as you have told the public, there should not be an issue with extinguishing the evidence. You have more than one hair.
Are the OCCK victims not worthy of figuring out how to use genetic geneology in this case? How can you justify not making the attempt?
WARNING; this is very triggering, disturbing information. Nightmare material. I am posting this in the off-chance that someone out there can help. I am also posting it because it shows what happens when prosecutors can’t get their shit together to arrest a wealthy pedophile before he flees justice. Washtenaw County’s buck passing and St. Claire County’s little “work load” excuse back in 1976 allowed incredible damage to be done to thousands of boys and their families down the line. Nice work.
Read this email I received from a reader who knows what Frank Shelden did after he left Michigan and the United States. His new Fox Island was a boys orphanage in India.
I realise you may find this obscure – please take time to look at it.
I have identified a Catholic priest in India as a lifelong friend of Frank Shelden, who hosted him as a paedophile visiting the orphanage that the priest ran in India, which is how I come into the picture.
The priest died in 2015 and then I found out he was a paedophile years earlier. A major paedophile. And a murderer.
I suspect this priest of having robust involvement on North Fox Island, and I think his DNA should be checked.
As a possible suspect in the Oakland County Child killings. I do note that a strong rumour of a “priest leaked out of the country at the time” was remarked by lower ranked law officers according to one or more bloggers.
I have looked at the photofit likenesses of the OCCK suspect, I have three different drawings,
and I have a lot of varied images of the priest, which of course is meaningless, but there is a striking resemblance all the same. I have made up a compilation image of all the pics together
I have evidence that the priest had more than one passport, that is he had fake identity, and could easily have been in the USA, while ostensibly still in India.I have a copy of the fake Indian passport dated long after OCCK but if he had a fake then, why would we think he might not have had one earlier?
The priest was ordained at Mary glade seminary, and lived in the vicinity of the OCCK murders throughout 1962 – 1966 but he retained close ties to Detroit, even though he was English.
Significant funds came into the orphanage, from Detroit, and I think Frank Sheldon was sending quite a bit of that money, but again this is hardly relevant, except that to show the ongoing connection to Detroit.
The priest returned on fundraising, ostensibly, because don’t forget he was a missionary who came from the local Detroit Seminary and they were funding him also as I understand.
I have photographic evidence of Frank Shelden holding orphan children, in this orphanage in India, years before I came along of course. All of this info of Shelden has been exposed to me within the last 9 months and the criminal matters in India only after the priest died in 2015.
I have identified another international paedophile in close liaison and friendship with Frank, and that is Dr Frits Bernard, and I have photographs of him also at the orphanage in India. Over these men were coming there to have sex with orphan boys, who were too poor and illiterate and isolated, and were trafficked by the priest
I would like to attach a photograph but I suspect my previous communications have been perhaps auto-discarded, so I won’t send an attachment until I get confirmation that you are willing to receive an attachment.
The priest is accused of killing a woman, or at the least concealing her body illegally, under a building in the orphanage, and I have a map to this illegal grave but he also buried a Child secretively in the midnight hours, and I believe that was one of his victims who died from abuse.
I also have a map to where that grave is, but getting any action in India is very difficult.
An eyewitness has described how this priest nearly murdered a man in front of his eyes. The diary of the priest which I am now holding makes reference to snuff sex.
The priest is alleged to have been interested in black magic.
There is a great deal about this man that makes me think he is a very ideal suspect in the murder of one or more of the Oakland victims. There might have been more than one killer.
It is very hard to get attention, but I think I have some very troubling information that needs to at least be eliminated.
If the priest was not involved, or if there is not enough evidence, if his DNA is not match, well then fine.
But surely every lead should be followed. I believe that the American police should contact Indian Federal police and request a crime scene be declared, to exhume or find other sources of DNA of the priest
And of course to locate those Indian victims.
I have tried to convey this info to US police but unsuccessfully
let me know if I can send a compilation image with all the pics I have of the priest.
His name was John Robert Thwaytes and he was a damaged sexual psychopath and even I forgot to mention had issues with females and maybe the OCCK killer also had this as I note the girls were not sexually touched allegedly.
I am Adrian Millane of Nambour, Queensland, Australia 4560 +61431593446 and Skype Facebook Ade O’Maolain
I received permission from Adrian to post his email, including contact information and the attachments.
Here is the compilation image with the photos/pictures of Thwatyes:
Here is a passport photo of the man from 1981.
The diary page Adrian sent is from this priest’s diary and it goes on about how much he thought about snuff sex and his fantasy that he himself be tortured to death. It is horrifying and I will spare you the read. But snuff sex is certainly something Frank Shelden capitalized on and probably enjoyed himself.
Read lines 17-37 if you have the stomach for it, and ask yourself how a monster like Frank Shelden was allowed to flee justice and hook up with another monster like Thwatyes, to rape and abuse probably thousands more boys overseas. No doubt some were murdered as well for their snuff fantasies: