For more on JoAnn’s case, listen to the No One Knows podcast which does a better job of taking the thing head on. Scott Burnstein, you should go on Liv’s podcast and compare notes. Right?
Regarding the end of the YouTube video, is someone finally believing that the OCCK case is literally the most corrupt serial killer investigation in history? Did someone finally believe what is meticulously set forth in Guarded by Jackals? Bring it.
That corruption fucked over four families and Oakland County communities for fifty years. I don’t know how the still-living monsters from the 1976-1977 OCP office and those who rubbed elbows with them and know or suspect have been able to live with themselves. How did/do you look at your children and grandchildren without dying inside?
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And the poison fouled up thousands of families . We could not play or go outside. Fathers were beat up for picking up their children from school. I could have been Tim or Mark.
And because those depraved POS, Patterson and Thompson, couldn’t risk any threads being pulled in other sex crimes against children in Oakland County, hundreds of CSC cases in that county were ignored. Pedophile rings flourished in Oakland County because of these two men and Oakland County residents who bought their “law and order” bullshit. Oakland County was never any better than Wayne County–it was no doubt worse. You just got better schools and better shopping..
Yep, how does Dicky Thompson still live with himself? Amazes me some of the players are still around and sleep at night. Not a club anyone wants to be in.
Both of them knew they would not only lose their law license, they would wind up in prison for what they did. That is some big motivation to compartmentalize and lie to yourself and others. Or drink very heavily in the dead man’s case. I guess it wasn’t a big deal. Michigan doesn’t “do” public corruption cases.
The entire interview was great. Especially if you have followed both the Joann Matouk-Romain and the David Widlak murders. Both initially ruled a suicide, both had a second autopsy initiated by the family. Both had conflicting autopsy results.
The Widlak death was ruled a suicide by Macomb County Medical Examiner Daniel Spitz. His father did the autopsy on Timothy King, and also later worked in Macomb County. It was changed to a murder only because the family got the Oakland County Medical Examiner to do a second autopsy. It was determined Widlak had a bullet in the back of his head. That’s a rather large error in my opinion.
I also found the comments regarding the OCCK case extremely important, and this information is being provided from an entirely different set of eyes and different perspectives.
If anyone only listened to the OCCK related information from the 48:19 mark to the end, I would also recommend listening to the OCCK comments from the 39:39 mark to about the 42:30 mark.
Just wanted to add that there are more similarities between the David Widlak and Joann Romain murders.
Both went missing for many days before being found.
Both were found in the water. Joann was found in a remote channel on the Detroit River by fishermen. Widlak was found in shallow waters near Lake Saint Clair by duck hunters who were bringing their boat in. Coincidentally it is not too far from the COMET office as described in Tim Matouk’s deposition in Season 2 Episode 1of 2 episode in the “No One Knows” podcast.
Both went to the FBI with information.
Both had an autopsy done by Daniel Spitz. Both of these autopsies were incorrect.
Both had county or city officials continuing to claim it was a suicide. Macomb County stated for a while that suicide could still be the case. This was even after the bullet hole was found. They eventually realized they needed to throw Spitz under the bus, and try to move on.
It is more interesting when you listen to some of these points in episode 7 of the podcast starting around the 45 minute mark. But I recommend listening to this entire episode which also discusses “the bigger picture” and many the many inconsistencies in Joann’s case., which Scott Burnstein touches on in this interview.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2xzIUuLMFwC1uv08TDuKKN
Jesus. Michigan. WTF?
Really worth re-visiting episode 7 again to hear the names and information mentioned. Especially 20 months later when so much more has been learned or have occurred.
Thanks, G-Man. I have been re-listening so I can consider the comparative public corruption angles. I will fast-forward to episode 7.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2xzIUuLMFwC1uv08TDuKKN
Lots of projects in the works in both cases and I say awesome. If the state police won’t look at the OCCK case with a clear eye, and no one in law enforcement Michigan will touch JoAnn’s case, let the games begin.
As for the OCCK case, the carcass is still plenty big for those outside law enforcement to feast off of. Law enforcement left plenty of meat behind. It’s obvious there were numerous “players” involved in the cases of Mark, Jill, Kristine and Tim, but I feel pretty confident that all roads will ultimately lead back to L. Brooks and H. Lee. Fan out from there.
Romain family attorney Solomon Radnar in 2020: “This is tragic in so many ways: The victims are dumped like a bag of trash; nobody cares in the police or prosecutor’s office; silence is power; people intentionally turn blind eyes to grave injustice and loss of human life, and it’s accepted as par for the course. That very fact
that we’re here a decade later and nobody has made an effort to find out anything, it should chill people to the bone, scare them to the core. The good guys are the bad guys now.
Everything is upside down, and people are OK with it.”
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