Another podcast with the author of The Kill Jar, J. Reuben Appelman:
The True Crime Garage podcast has two new episodes covering The Oakland County Child Killer (Tuesday, August 14 and Wednesday, August 15, 2018). J. Reuben Appelman, author of the just-released book, The Kill Jar, is interviewed as part of the second episode.
Solid job, gentleman. Some minor errors and assumptions, but I’m glad you interviewed Appelman and kept an open mind. The case is complex but you had some excellent observations. You went beyond discussing murder for entertainment and provided a public service. Your May 2016 episode was not so solid, but given that all you had then were the inaccuracies repeated over the decades by the Detroit-area media, it is understandable. You got this shit on the right track in podcast land after speaking with Appelman. Thank you. Listeners, you might have to listen to these episodes twice to let it all sink in. Wake up.
Yes, Oakland County–you are not famous, but you are infamous. And now more people will understand why. Listen to these two episodes of True Crime Garage. Pulling back the veil one outlet at a time. Let the unraveling begin.
But we can’t do that in this case. Too bad, so sad, no semen, no tissue, no nuclear DNA. Too much work, go fuck yourselves and please just get lost. Nothing stored correctly or even filed properly. Hairs in my brother’s case? Misfiled as animal hairs, for decades, just in case you didn’t know. You had only one of those hairs out to test against the non-suspect David Norberg, so WTF?! And for that matter, why didn’t you test every goddamn hair you had against a guy your tax payers paid to exhume, as well as other evidence that we now know existed, but you denied? Because you never thought some pathetic victim-family assholes would ask to see the records you motherfuckers are responsible for. That’s why.
Unlike the OCCK case, the above article outlines the massive scope, intricate science and sheer doggedness of the effort to catch one of the nation’s worst serial predators in the Golden State Killer case. “Initial DNA work identified distant relatives — not a suspect. [investigator and DNA expert Paul] Holes said a team of five investigators spent four months building out family trees, name by name. They pored over census records, newspaper obituaries, gravesite locaters, and police and commercial databases to find each relative and, ultimately, DeAngelo.”
That requires resources and commitment. And a case where high-level pedophiles will not be exposed (and were in fact protected by the FBI), nor errors of higher level task force investigators, prosecutors and polygraphers, and vigilante justice exposed. No one pursued the evidence gathered in this case because officials could not afford to charge ANYONE in this case. Their whole deal would unravel. You can’t charge someone who would roll on someone else and blow this shit wide open. Shame on you. You are in the same stratosphere as the despicable, shitty, worthless animal pedophiles you allegedly were after or protecting. You, Jane Burgess, Larry Wasser, Ralph Cabot, many others. Keep your mouths shut and live with it. Your mirror should reflect these four dead kids. Imagine what they went through during their captivity. Like animals. How do you live with yourselves?
Rerun those autopsy kits on those four poor, dead, broken kids who were kept from their families and received god knows what treatment and then dumped in public and rerun that shit on GED Match. You know you have to. If you can’t afford the time or resources to do the research to figure out who is involved, I bet there are a thousand volunteers who are well-versed in genealogy out there who would get the job done. For free. We are watching.
And while I’m at it, let’s take another look at old David Norberg, whose corpse was exhumed in late August 1999. Check out a Detroit Free Press article written by Hugh McDiarmid, Jr., dated September 2, 1999. (Sorry, I am on the road and don’t have access to a scanner.) Norberg was being looked at in connection with the OCCK murders, as well as the murders of Jane Allen and Kimberly King.
The article states that “Bone and tissue samples were taken during Tuesday’s exhumation in hopes of linking him through DNA testing to a strand of hair found on victim Timothy King. Two additional hairs were found in another victim’s mouth, and sperm was recovered from another body, according to the warrant. But investigators said Wednesday there was no such evidence.
‘The warrant may say that, but it’s not correct,’ said Berkley Detective Ray Anger, who has led the exhumation and testing.” OK, SO WHY ARE YOU PRESENTING BULLSHIT AFFIDAVITS IN SUPPORT OF YOUR WARRANTS?? And now we know your shit is lies, Anger. But you are dead now and can’t be called to account. After receiving FOIA documents–documents you sons of bitches thought we would never see, we know two hairs were found on Tim. One in his nasal cavity, and one on his groin region. One is described as a head hair and one is described as a mustache hair. These documents also say that a 2 3/4″ head hair was found on Mark Stebbins. Documents do say that the hairs in Kris’ mouth are her own. But we now know about that little hair on her jacket THAT IS A mtDNA MATCH TO JAMES VINCENT GUNNELS, WHO IS ASSOCIATED WITH CHRIS BUCSCH AND GREG GREENE. So there isn’t just one goddamn hair, Anger, you liar. Twenty-two years later you are flying this shit. And, in spite of denials from the MSP (below), sadly, the public eats it. In spite of the following:
“Reference to the sperm and additional hair samples in the warrant came directly from original investigative documents, said Jim Halushka, Chief of Warrants for the Oakland County Prosecutor’s Office. He said that if that evidence doesn’t exist–as Anger contends, it’s news to him.” NO KIDDING, PAL. From FOIA document BLK 02499: “Regarding autopsy of Mark Stebbins, performed by Dr. Patanga at O.C. M.E.’s office, s noted by a Livonia synopsis dated 4/1/77, by Det./Sgt. Varajon: “they obtained semen from anal and oral cavities. . . . Slides of semen obtained from Dr. Patanga to be transported to MSP crime lab.” YOU TELL ME WTF IS GOING ON HERE??
“EITHER RAY WAS CONFUSED OR IN ERROR WHEN HE TOLD YOU THAT,” Halushka said Wednesday.” “Steve Lorch, laboratory director for the State Police Northville Laboratory the is preparing the evidence to be sent to the FBI lab in Washington, said he’s unaware of the DNA evidence other than the one hair.” FUCK YOU AND THE FBI, YOU LIARS! Somebody find this fuck and interview him. One hair?! Lorch, you also never foresaw pathetic family members getting access to your goddamn MSP documents that reveal you all to be liars.
So let’s go further into that article, shall we Ray Anger? For whatever reason, you and Oakland County are all over the Norberg lead in 1999. Maybe some other disturbing stuff was bubbling up to the surface and this was a good way to squelch any questions about your devotion to the case. Which, let’s face it, up to now, you don’t have dick on and never even ran any suspects up the flag pole to prove you were on the case before this shit hit the fan. You never charged a single fucking person in this or a related pedophile/child porn case. The best way to get someone to turn on someone is to charge them. But you never do it–because you can’t risk it. You can’t risk someone squealing on Busch and Greene who were cleared by the MSP and Oakland County before Tim King was abducted and murdered, Fox Island and that piece of shit, multi-millionaire Frank Sheldon and his attorney, the undeniable child porn and pedophile ring that existed within GM and Chrysler, Detroit Police Chief Ike McKinnon’s bullshit undercover operation in Detroit (can you say “Richard Lawson”?), or about vigilante justice (we get it, motherfuckers, but you fucked us family members over big time).
You can’t risk this shit unraveling. But it’s going to. You can’t fuck us all over forever. You cannot harass and intimidate us forever. We won’t get closure–that’s a joke; but you will be exposed for what you did and what you hid. You had PLENTY of DNA evidence, but you never looked into a fucking thing after you found that fat, fucking piece of shit, Chris Busch, wrapped up dead in his boyhood bed cocoon, arms tucked in, with a gun next to his rotting body. You pussies gave in to the FBI and you fucked over those four little kids, their families and friends, all of society in that area of Michigan, and your souls and reputations. If this was in fact done by mafia, or some shit like that, they should find a way to reassure those of us who have suffered for over 40 years. But I doubt that. LE, and those of you who kept your mouth shut, your day is coming. As a good friend of mine said, I hope you all go through hell before you end up there.
“We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” Elie Wiesel.
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We heard about Arch “Ed” Sloan a little over six years ago when Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper released some “important new information” related to a “person of interest,” Sloan. In a press conference on July 17, 2012, Cooper explained that DNA testing by the FBI found that a hair found on Mark Stebbins and a hair found on Tim King came from the same person. https://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/07/17/breaking-news-update-in-oakland-county-child-killer-case/. I guess it took a couple decades for someone to think to compare the very few hairs found on the victims to try to link the crimes.