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Page 4 of 4.


Has absolutely no idea how his DNA is on Kristine’s body.

Has absolutely no idea how his DNA is on Kristine's body.


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Page 2 of 4


“A lot of things have been pushed to the back of my head, but you’ve got to understand a lot of crack has also gone through it.”

As I posted earlier, the Oakland County prosecutor recently responded to my Dad’s latest FOIA request for all documents provided to media outlets in response to their FOIA requests. The following document is remarkable not only for what it says, but also for what was not redacted. When given to my Dad in response to his initial FOIA request, in this same document the section pertaining to polygraph questions and results was completely redacted. In the copy given to the media, none of that is redacted. Only Vince Gunnels’ DOB, SSN and OPS under the suspect description section are redacted.  My Dad had repeatedly asked the OCP and the MSP for an unredacted copy of this report. No sale. But the OCP gives all the info to the media. Does this make any sense? Page 1 of 4, three more to follow.


It is what it is. Email I sent today, redacted.

XXX,

I have long suspected my emails were being read by others off and on for a few years. This is how I feel about it: I know it’s happening, I have nothing to hide–read away, fuckers. Which is why I am sending you this email.

First of all, I have heard far stranger stories than your’s and I do not automatically discount anything in this case. You should know that I have been down the road before with more than a few people who want to help and then become hostile and borderline (or outright) belligerent as time goes on when I ask questions or am unable to do things they think a victim’s family member can do. I know you didn’t ask for any of this, but I didn’t either. I think you have vastly overestimated what I can do (the cops and prosecutor hate me and my family), and underestimated my intelligence.

I thank you for speaking up and speaking up loudly. I need you to understand fully and completely that you should not be doing anything to jeopardize your daughter or your relationship with her. NOTHING. Don’t do it on my family’s behalf and don’t do it in the name of the kids who were murdered. We have to be smart about all of this. There has been far too much fall-out and anytime someone else goes under the bus in this case, it only assures those who have something to hide that their secrets are safe for all time. I do not believe this case will ever be “solved” in the sense of some authority putting a stamp on it and saying “closed.” Another woman I have been in contact with for a few months has a son who is a new LE officer. He has been warned that his mom better shut up or there could be problems for him. Do I doubt this? No way. I have told her repeatedly we have to find a way to deal with her info under the radar so her son is not jeopardized. There have already been so many terrible repercussions around this case. We have to be smart about all of it. Believe me, I understand the frustration.

I am more than willing to listen to what you have to say. But know this–there is NO WAY any court will issue a search warrant based on what you have revealed to me. I could scream at the top of my lungs at some press conference and it wouldn’t change a thing. Search warrants are issued based on probable cause. I am not trying to be a jerk, but God cannot sign an affidavit. I am not a religious person, but I am a very spiritual person. As I’ve stated, I am open-minded. But surely you must realize that cops in general, and people like Det. XXXX XXXXXX, hate this stuff. And that’s in the normal case, not a case where they have massive amounts of ass-covering to do. These people go nuts when people question them–and all of the agencies involved in this case have a long, long history of dissing people who come forward with information in this case. If the person pushes it, they are subjected to mistreatment of one kind or another. Trust me, I’ve heard it over the past eight years. I know it happens. All of us who speak up are either emotional freaks, cranks, crazies, drug addicts, drunks, obsessed with serial killers, or looking for money or fame. It is a common theme.

I know another person who was committed after speaking up about this case years ago. So I believe this strategy is still used to shut people up.  [. . .]   Along those lines, as I reread your emails and comments, I found them to take on an escalating level of hostility. I will give you the benefit of the doubt for now, because you may have misunderstood my lack of communication–which was due to the fact that I was on vacation with my daughter, who deserves my full attention–especially on a vacation that was for us–and does not need to be exposed to this shit.

I don’t think any of us are being paranoid–I think we are justifiably concerned about what might happen in light of what we are saying and doing. So I don’t think you are paranoid. I get it.

As for your assumptions about my blog and my intelligence level: I do not for one minute trust ANY of the law enforcement involved in this case. The closest I come to some kind of “reassurance” is Wayne County–but they are hampered because the MSP fucks with them at every turn. A private investigator who is working on this case on her own dime came to me with information and asked who I trust that she could go to. My answer: No one. She has contacts at the FBI–I told her I believe they are dirty in this case. I’m having a hard time convincing her of this, but I won’t give up.

So stop accusing me of barking up the wrong tree, trusting the cops, all of that shit. I don’t know who killed Tim, Kris, Jill and Mark, or the other kids who have not been connected to this case. I started that blog so I could put shit out there that we have found. XXX, the cops DIDN’T come to us with the Busch info. We came to them with it. The documents speak for themselves. Your pastor talked to Gunnels? So what. He flunked his polygraph. And that doesn’t mean he is guilty, but those are the fucking facts.

In short, whatever I put on my blog, I don’t need a critique of it from every person who has a dog in this fight. It is what it is. And what is it? Evidence of the fact that this investigation is so utterly flawed that the crime will never be solved. So let the public see what was in those files. Let them see how their elected officials and the cops they pay big tax dollars to support, operate.

I do not doubt what XXX has seen and knows. That house may have housed incredible evil. However, how do you know details such as that the killer was someone who was not a pedophile, whose purpose was to induce fear in the suburbs (a theory which is entirely plausible)? How did you come across this case and know that what you found in the attic was related to this case?

I am perfectly open to the idea that Busch was not involved. However, you yourself admit his suicide was actually a homicide. Why was he set up as a patsy for these murders? The cops have fought us every inch of the way on the Busch lead. I don’t give a shit if it turns out Busch was not directly involved. I am not a “Busch Theorist.” What I am is someone who thinks that not ONE SINGLE FUCKING LEAD IN THIS CASE WAS ADEQUATELY INVESTIGATED TO THE POINT THAT IT COULD BE DISMISSED. What does that say about the largest manhunt/investigation in the U.S. at the time?!

No one in my family has pulled your court file in Oakland County. I can honestly say that I have never even run a Google search or any other search on you. XXX informs me that your real name is XXX. I have not searched either name. I don’t think my Dad has contacted you, and I can tell you right now, he is not open to the kind of things you are talking about. Keep in mind that this is a man who trusted the cops for 30 years. It took us kids two years to convince him that he had been hoodwinked by the cops.

I looked up Lt. Det. XXX from the O.C. Sheriff Dept. Do I doubt that he is a douchebag and a typical cop? No. The OC Sheriff was out of the loop for decades. Do I think they will do shit on this case? No. Don’t accuse me of trusting them. I don’t. None of those fucks have given my family any information and as a matter of fact, representatives of this agency have lied to my Dad’s face. He knows it; we all know it. We are taking steps to make it all public.

Who owns XXX XXXXXXXXXXXX? I tried to do a title search on the property and of course after I paid them their money, it turns out I need an owner’s name, not an address. Let’s see who owned this property over the years. I take it XXX lives there and that she will not agree to a visit by a cadaver dog. Michigan Search and Rescue offers this service, although it is unclear from the site the level of experience their dogs have with more “ancient” remains, which is a specialized area of search. There are dogs trained around the country to deal with this type of situation, but it is a sub-specialty of search. I am not opposed to looking into this option on a private basis–you know the cops won’t do it–but if the owner won’t consent, that’s a non-starter.

I plan on speaking to XXX on Wed. night [. . .]. I am copying XXX on this email. I will call XXX as you suggested. In the meantime, I will just reiterate that I have been bullied and played by others in the past. I am way past taking shit off of anyone in this case. By this I don’t mean to say that I don’t believe you or I doubt your claims. What I mean is that I will not be held hostage to your claims or what you know. If I could do more with your information, I would. All I can do is keep an open mind and research on the side with the hopes that something comes of it. I will not jeopardize my privacy by calling you on my cell phone and will call from a landline. I have a daughter at home, too–I am sure you can understand. I know you are going through hell and I am very sorry for that. If I could change it, I would.

Cathy